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[list4xt] Re: Announce on xsl-list
Subject: [list4xt] Re: Announce on xsl-list
User: Website From: Paul Tchistopolskii (pault12@pacbell.net)
Date: 02/06/2000 - 18:43
Eric,
> For the completeness of these archives and for the few of you who are
> not on xsl-list, I need to say that I have published an announcement [1]
> on xsl-list which has been coldly received by David Carlisle [2] and
> [3], Sebastian Rahtz [4] and James Clark [5].
[2] and [3] are abstract. [4] should be ignored, because Sebastian
is used to make ugly comments sometimes on some issues not
understanding what realy happens ( after explaning him the detailes
he usualy takes a step back - that is what already happened.)
I think that David and Sebastian are *not* against the initiative, but they
are against the situation itself ( very understandable - situation
is crazy. Not because of Eric. ).
> To answer these concerns, I have posted an new message [6] in which I
> announce the publication of the private emails exchange with James Clark
> regarding 4xt [7] and the team4xt archives [8].
>
> Please feel free to tell me (on any list) what you think about the
> maintenance initiative and if anything is necessary to improve our
> communication.
I think this is unfortunate that you had to publish private emails exchange
to make things go ( even I understand that you had not too much choice
in situation you got, and you got that situation not because of your actions. ).
I don't think there is anything that could be done to improve communication.
I don't understand why *everything* related to XML is soooooo complex.
There is a lot of people starting and dropping opensource projects and
I can not remember any problems.
If author has no time to support the tool and there are some people who are
saying: " let us try to help you" the normal human reaction is to place the link
to that 'supporting group' and say to them: "ok, fine - just don't expect I'll have
enough time to help you, and also please ... this and ... that".
Why this does not work with XT ??????? Why XT is soooo special ???????
It is just yet another open source tool ( well written and reasonable )!!!!!!
In some aspects it is written better than the rest 2 'competitions'. The source
code is better. Should we start loud explanations to James why his tool is
good? ( This will be 'natural' continuation of the discussion in XSL list )
I feel crazy to explain to some developer why I want to use his codebase.
I tried all 3 codebases and XT's codebase is better yet in some sense.
I can start obvious explanations like "it is usually better when there is
only one developer who wrote the entire heap" , "your XSLProcessorImpl
is derived from SAXParser ( this is smart and very good for chaining)" e t.c. -
The problem is that I don't understand why I have to start with such things
( there is already a lot of compliments to James Clark published on the web -
including mine ).
It is very bad that James tries to kill XT ( forcing people to work with
SAXON / Xalan ). Too long to explain why this is bad and the explanations
may be not polite to Michael ( whom I 100% respect ) and Apache group.
Cool situation. The only way to stay polite is to make compliments to James
and pray that he'll change his mind. This is the way W3C usually works.
Rgds.Paul.
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